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Nyla DuBois's avatar

The case for a reasonable change in culture

I do love this but she had me at trampoline, hammock, hampster, and garage gym. That's a pendulum swung too far. Not for me personally but for the movement. This is digital luditism (is that a word?) and it's never going to work for the masses. That said, there are surely tons of great ideas and truths to be gained from this work. I will be buying her book. My fear is turning people off to the movement.

My approach with my kids has turned some heads and had some effect in my small orbit. I intend to take that further. It is just one of many approaches and to be clear, I do not disparage any approach! We are all trying and thank god for that.

Briefly my approach is to give my kids very stripped down (Troomi) phones at a young age. Tablets. And they have a computer they share. They learn to use them as tools. Period. They have a couple games on tablets. They watch tv on our biggish tv. We only have one in the house. They play duo lingo mostly. Their phones they only use when they go out to do something that requires money because their banking apps are on there, or if they require a pick up later. 80% of the time they dont bring phones with them. They use their tablets to connect to their friends via facetiime. Lastly, I control everything through the router. Anything over 3rd grade is blocked on the internet but also they dont know how to access that yet. We are currently teaching them about what they cant unsee. They are girls age 9 and 11. My oldest age 21 fell HARD with phones and all of the genZ stuff. Years in hospitals.

I thought about the luddite thing but here's where I landed... I will be a single mother soon. We are getting divorced. I have to negotiate my co-parent as well. At school and sports they WILL be required to have tech. Period. They must know how to use it properly. I am not sporty but I have my kids DEEP in sports already because its about the culture for me. I cant do this alone. I had to build a community of like minded adults. All their friends have tablets and smart watches (not my cup because they are tethered to their parents) but we are ALL in agreement about that being literally a communication tool.

What does that mean at the end of the day? We have banded together to give the kids a play based experience by each family carrying a little more weight in the "doing" arena. I took a group of 5 on a major beach adventure 2 days ago. Another mom did the sleepover a few days before. Another parent did the SUP adventure. We sent them to the same week long day camp. They all play sports together. Some dont like it but they do it anyway because thats where their friends who arent on phones are. Its about culture for us and I cant build that as a one woman show on an island.

I have been following this since 2017. I was at the depths of despair with my oldest. I vowed to never go there again. But I also KNOW you cant control everything. The worst of what she saw and did on the phones including porn etc happened on other peoples phones. In and out of school. She learned some of the worst in hospitals.

I just wanted to hilight this because what I have seen is parents in the middle getting lost in the conversation between all or nothing and we want to capture them because thats the vast vast majority us us. My kids are having a miraculous free playfilled childhood. With phines and tablets. But also with a keen understanding of what they are. Scary tools! Like butcher knives. Thats how we see them. My kids can use a butcher knife at age 9. They can use a phone.

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Jane's avatar

Hi Katherine i was excitied to find your work through Jon Haidt’s Substack.

Im in Australia and have 2 daughters aged 10 and 12 who don’t have social media, phones, and only use internet with permission in a common area for research projects, etc. They do watch shows and movies and play minecraft (not online) together sometimes.

They are homeschooled so it’s relatively easy so far due to the lack of school peer pressure since most of their homeschooled friends don’t have phones either. They would generally prefer to see each other in real life.

I’m looking forward to reading your articles and book.

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